The Poverty Trap

I’ve spoken before with Jonathan Gruber, one of America’s leading health economists; I decided to talk again after reading a remarkable new paper he co-wrote about the effects of immigration on healthcare for native-born seniors — bottom line: the attack on immigrants will send thousands of us to an early grave. Watch the full conversation here: https://youtu.be/gh_3ib6-IuI?si=lfMa_r8s1g7uttu9 For a transcript of this conversation, click here: https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/talking-again-with-jon-gruber --- Subscribe to Paul Krugman on Substack here: https://paulkrugman.substack.com/subscribe Find Paul on Bluesky here: https://bsky.app/profile/pkrugman.bsky.social Paul Krugman is an economist and college professor. In 2008, he won the Nobel Prize for his research on international trade and economic geography. Before launching his Substack, Paul was a New York Times opinion writer from 2000 to 2024.

Added 4 Apr 2026